CCS Compiler steal windows focus

afk_pic · Joined: 02 Jun 2020 Posts: 19

Hello this issue is annoying,

When I compiling (takes almost 1 minute) normally made another task, like read email, respond emails, etc. But CCS always steal windows focus, if I am typing when compiling and I press "enter" then the compilation stops.

Very frustrating, any options??

Regards

temtronic · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:47 am

get a second computer ?
Not trying to be 'smart', but all PCs can only do one thing at a time,same as a PIC. essentially Windows does 'time share' not true parallel multitasking. Maybe the 'multicore' ones do ? I'm a dinosaur, only know how it was 'in the beginning',1 CPU with one ALU. How many programs are loaded and running ? Any 'autoupdates' allowed ? Any antivirus pgms installed ?
If it's taking a whole minute to compile, that implies rather large programs(or AV SW running...).again.. a 'flag' that you should have a 2nd, dedicated 'PIC programming platform, checking emails means that PC has net access...you might end up with a virus that destroys your PC AND all your PIC programs....For 15+- years I ran 3 PCs. One hooked to the internet, one for 'PIC programming' and a 3rd for testing. Programs had to be transferred via USB Flash drive. Everything backed up x3 (hard drive, 2nd hard drive, flash drive).
The good news is it doesn't take you 15 MINUTES to erase a PIC !

afk_pic · Joined: 02 Jun 2020 Posts: 19

temtronic · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:49 am

Last 'multicore processing' I coded was the Motorola 6809, I have no knowledge how Windows does 'multicore' but there's got to be a LOT of 'overhead' to run pgm 'a' in core 1, pgm 'b' in core 3...memory access has to be very complicated.
Since you can't use a 2nd PC, best look at what pgms, apps, processes are running and pause/stop/delete those you do not need. other problems would be HD access.unless you have 2 HD controllers all pgms will use ONE controller for hd access. that would slowdown overall operations.

jeremiah · Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 1354

There's not really any noticeable overhead for multicore. If anything it speeds up everything.

For the OP: Do you have background compiling enabled in the IDE options? I do and mine doesn't take focus on my windows 10 PC.

temtronic · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:49 am

vtrx · Joined: 11 Oct 2017 Posts: 142

temtronic · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:01 pm

What we don't know is program size. Is it 100 lines of code or 10,000 ? what level optimization ? Is the AV SW always active ? Most will scan EVERYTIME a program is run, which means the compiler program has to be scanned before it runs. How 'full' is the fake hard drive ? Somewhere I read newer Windows run a cached HD, yet more OS to fumble the bits....
Who set the priority for which programs to run ?
'Windows' keeps getting more and more complicated and who decides on the 'default' operating parameters ?

One day, some 'program' decided to reduce the power level on a USB port, that had been fine for 3-4 YEARS. My program stopped (errored), eventually I figured out the USB port had been changed. Reconfigured to MY spec, it's been fine. Have no idea WHAT caused it, just a 'windows glitch'......
Was there a specific time when 'it took over, took too long' ? If so, what 'updates' were run ?

newguy · Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 1909

Humberto · Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:03 pm

The CCS compiler is actually very effective with regards to compile times.
If your application takes so long to solve a task, clearly there is a problem with your operating system, you have an antivirus running in real time, or you have some malware that is using CPU resources.
Press Ctrl + Alt + Del you will have access to the Task Manager. Click on the Processes tab, by clicking on CPU you will see all the active processes and the CPU load that each process requires.
You can select one of them and Stop the Process (as long as it is not a vital one for Windows).

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Ttelmah · Joined: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 19539

Have to agree.
I must admit I start to suspect there is some form of I/O error involved here.
If the system talking to the SSD is having to retry, this is a kernel 'low
level' event, and takes priority over everything else.
I'd be checking the error logs to see if anything is reported. It should be.
Gives you a chance to find out what is going on.

bkamen · Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:56 am

afk_pic · Joined: 02 Jun 2020 Posts: 19

Hi, i'm back

No, the problem is the prompt when compile the multiple .c or .h files that my project includes. Compiling takes too time because the source files are in a server.

I'm not using the CCS IDE, I use eclipse, check the issue:

temtronic · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:35 am

source files , really all files , should not be on a 'server' rather stored on the PC you develop your projects on.
Aside from the 'time to compile' problem, the more serious one, is anyone might be able to modify or corrupt those source files.

jeremiah · Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 1354