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ChickyMeal
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| Please recommend the best simulator & emulator for 16F87 |
 Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:13 pm |
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hi guys...
I'm planning to take a step ahead and buy my own simulator.
Right now I'm using MPLAB with pcm and pch compiler
and most of my project use pic16f877a.
Can you please recommend the most efficient (function + cost) simulator
that I could buy? plus the extra stuff (chip, cables, etc.) to get the things running.
What's the difference between simulator and emulator anyway?
thanxz a zillions~
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asmallri
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
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Location: Perth, Australia
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| Re: Please reccommend the best simulator & emulator for |
| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:00 am |
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| ChickyMeal wrote: | hi guys...
I'm planning to take a step ahead and buy my own simulator.
Right now I'm using mplab with pcm and pch compiler
and most of my project use pic16f877a.
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OK I can't resist. If you own PCM and PCH, what possible reason is there to use the PIC16F877A for new projects when the 18F45x family costs about the same but offers far more system resources, operating modes, higher performance and superiour instruction set?
I guess you mean your buying an emulator as opposed to a simulator?
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PCM programmer
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:51 pm |
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That's not the question to ask. The question to ask is why would he
want to spend $1000's on an ICE when doesn't know the difference
between a simulator and an emulator. Especially since the simulator
(in MPLAB) is free.
The answer is: If you want to spend money on a hardware device,
then get a hardware debugger. It's much cheaper than ICE, and it
will likely do what you need. (ie., you can set breakpoints on code,
and examine registers and memory).
1. If you have PCW or PCWH, it's best to get the CCS ICDU-40.
2. If you have the CCS command line compilers (PCM or PCH),
it's best to get the Microchip ICD2 and use it with MPLAB. |
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chickyMeal
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:33 pm |
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oopsss... my mistake...
what i mean is difference between emulator and debugger..
the price difference is very high!
i've used the simulator on mplab but its just software rite?
i want to debug my program in real time...
if i use icd2 do i need to buy specific IC or i can simply use my own PIC? |
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PCM programmer
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:49 pm |
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| Quote: | | if i use icd2 do i need to buy specific IC or i can simply use my own PIC? |
You only need to buy a special ICD header for certain PICs. (usually
the smaller ones). See this thread for an example.
http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23672&highlight=16f628a+icd
| Quote: | | most of my project use pic16f877a... |
16F877A supports debugging with ICD2. You don't need a special header for it. |
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