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Max input V(peak) for ADC on dspic33e

 
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irmanao



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Max input V(peak) for ADC on dspic33e
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:09 am     Reply with quote

Hey,

I can't seem to find what the max input V(peak) for ADC on dspic33e is? I'm guessing it's 5volts(0-5). Can anybody help me with this?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:29 am     Reply with quote

Vpeak can not be higher than Vadc which must be <= Vdd whichever is lower but limited to 3.3V

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:34 pm     Reply with quote

So the peak of my input cannot be higher than 3.3V?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:50 pm     Reply with quote

Whenever I hear/see 'peak' I think of an AC waveform so please do NOT inject/sample an AC waveform to the PIC. It is one SURE way of destroying it !!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:39 pm     Reply with quote

irmanao wrote:
So the peak of my input cannot be higher than 3.3V?


This is from the dsPIC33F family reference manual. I'll leave it up to you to find the equivalent information for your processor.

From the ADC chapter:
Quote:
The voltage references for A/D conversions are selected using the VCFG<2:0> control bits
(ADxCON2<15:13>). The upper voltage reference (VREFH) and the lower voltage reference
(VREFL) can be the internal AVDD and AVSS voltage rails or the VREF+ and VREF- input pins.

The voltages applied to the external reference pins must meet certain specifications. Refer to the
Electrical Specifications section of the device data sheet for details.
(emphasis mine)

From the dspic33FJ256GP710A's data sheet (electrical characteristics chapter):
Quote:
Device Supply
AVDD Module VDD Supply (min) Greater of VDD - 0.3 or 3.0 (typ) - (max) Lesser of VDD + 0.3 or 3.6 V
AVSS Module VSS Supply (min) VSS - 0.3 (typ) - (max) VSS + 0.3 V

Reference Inputs
VREFH Reference Voltage High (min)AVSS + 2.7 (typ) - (max) AVDD V See Note 2
VREFL Reference Voltage Low (min) AVSS (typ) - (max) AVDD - 2.7 V See Note 2
VREF Absolute Reference Voltage (min) 3.0 (typ) - (max) 3.6 V VREF = VREFH - VREFL


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Note 2: These parameters are not characterized or tested in manufacturing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:47 am     Reply with quote

Thanks



(It is superimposed on a DC offset)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:57 am     Reply with quote

ah ha ! I knew it was an AC signal, well sort of...

Just be sure the signal NEVER goes below 0 (zero) volts or you'll be buying another PIC.
Or... if you don't destroy it, you'll wonder why are the ADC readings 'wrong, it worked before...'

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:46 am     Reply with quote

So the datasheet doesn't mention an internal connection of AVDD and VDD.
If i want to use those rails (Vdd-Vss) for adc should i just connect AVDD to Vdd and AVSS to Vss? And how about the multiple couples of Vdd/Vss provided? Do i leave them alone if i power the PIC by a usb connected to a computer?

I use the dsPIC33E USB Starter Kit.

Thanks and sorry..
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