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ivan_ult
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| Multiple serial communication . . . (newbie) |
 Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:26 pm |
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Hi everyone, I need to make an intelligent splitter. What I mean is, I need to connect 3 rs232 interfaces with a PIC (I've chosen the 16F877) and control the data flow.
I try using PICBASIC but I couldn't. I can't loop the 3 pins until the PIC receives data from one of the 3 devices. 
Can I do that with CCS and 16F877?
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Ivan. |
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tranz
Joined: 10 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:49 pm |
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Well with CCS you can put hardware and software interrupts on those pins and loop the software interrupts. So when the data comes in from any of those 3 terminals your micro would be able to handle the request based on which terminal sends the data first.
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ivan_ult
Joined: 29 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:59 pm |
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Tranz, thanks for answer, as I've read the getc function waits until a character has come in, what I need is loop the reception of the 3 rcv pins and play with the data, here is part of my code.
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#use rs232(baud=9600,parity=N,xmit=PIN_B0,rcv=PIN_B1,bits=8,stream=COM0)
#use rs232(baud=9600,parity=N,xmit=PIN_B2,rcv=PIN_B3,bits=8,stream=COM1)
#use rs232(baud=9600,parity=N,xmit=PIN_B4,rcv=PIN_B5,bits=8,stream=COM2)
byte DATA0=0;
byte DATA1=0;
byte DATA2=0;
myloop:
DATA0=getc(COM0);
DATA1=getc(COM1);
DATA2=getc(COM2);
goto myloop;
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As I understand COM1 can't receive data until COM0 receives.
Is that right?
If so, how can I wait for data from any of the input ports ?
Some code. 
Regards . . .
Ivan. |
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tranz
Joined: 10 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:49 pm |
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Well based on your loop
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#use rs232(baud=9600,parity=N,xmit=PIN_B0,rcv=PIN_B1,bits=8,stream=COM0)
#use rs232(baud=9600,parity=N,xmit=PIN_B2,rcv=PIN_B3,bits=8,stream=COM1)
#use rs232(baud=9600,parity=N,xmit=PIN_B4,rcv=PIN_B5,bits=8,stream=COM2)
byte DATA0=0;
byte DATA1=0;
byte DATA2=0;
myloop:
DATA0=getc(COM0);
DATA1=getc(COM1);
DATA2=getc(COM2);
goto myloop;
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COM1 will not receive data till COM0 receives it. What I ment was a hardware interrupt like
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#int_rda
void isr()
{
//functions to be performed when this interrupt occures
}
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look up EX_SISR.C example at C:\Program Files\PICC\Examples. Also all the terminals will not work at the same baud rate i.e. 9600. So you need to have different baud rates for different terminals.
When it comes to software interrupts you can use a template like this
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while(1)
{
if (kbhit(COM1))
{
//functions to be performed
}
if (kbhit(COM2))
{
//functions to be performed
}
}
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FvM
Joined: 27 Aug 2008
Posts: 2337
Location: Germany
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:09 pm |
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| Please consider, that a software RS232 implementation won't be able to receive simultaneously at more than one pin. At best, it will be aware in time of an incoming character, when the baud rate isn't too high and the loop through the different kbhit() functions isn't too complex. |
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asmallri
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Location: Perth, Australia
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:47 pm |
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It is possible to use timers and external interrupts to implement interrupt driver software uarts especially given your baud rates are very low. It would be a lot easier with an 18F than a 16F to achieve this.
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Rohit de Sa
Joined: 09 Nov 2007
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Location: India
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:21 pm |
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You could think along the lines of using a dual bidirectional switch per channel, sort of like a mux-demux arrangement, with one end of each switch connected to the PIC, and the other end connected to a MAX232 or equivalent line driver. This way you can utilize the PIC's UART hardware. You will need to include some sort of signalling or flow control, and you will be able to transmit only intermittent data using this method.
I have successfully used such a system using a 16F628A as a 'master controller' and two RS232-enabled theater lighting controllers. The PIC enable the first switch; it would send a command to the first controller; the controller would respond accordingly. Then it would enable the second switch, and do the same. The data rates were low (19200 baud) and intermittent, so this method served well.
This was just a small test project, but it worked flawlessly.
Rohit |
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John P
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:23 am |
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| Alternatively, you could bring all 3 serial inputs to to pins of PORTB, and use the interrupt-on-change feature to tell you when something has happened. But then you'd be looking at changes on the line, not the arrival of a complete character or even a predictable time within one bit. Nevertheless, I think it's possible. I just want to see someone else put the time into writing the code ;-) |
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ECACE
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:36 am |
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I did a very similar type function in the past as the previous post stated. I had multiple lines that I needed to see with an interupt. I took the three input lines through diodes so the signals did not interfere with each other, and fed them into B0. Then watching for an interupt on B0 change, I would check each input to see which one it was. This was done on a 16F690 at 8Mhz. It would probably work for slower baud rates, but you would really have to play around with it some. Good luck.
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ivan_ult
Joined: 29 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:12 pm |
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First, thanks everybody for answer.
I've solved the issue, a simple program (part of the code)
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myloop:
if (kbhit(PC))
{
PC_DATA=fgetc(PC);
fputc(PC_DATA,INSERTER);
flash_tx1();
}
if (kbhit(INSERTER))
{
INS_DATA=fgetc(INSERTER);
fputc(INS_DATA,PC);
fputc(INS_DATA,ETHERNET_SERIAL);
flash_tx0();
}
goto myloop;
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The program works fine (I probe it with 3 serial devices), the problem is when I connect one of the ports to an specific machine (actually old machine from 80's) I get trash in the data.
So, somebody knows something about noise reducing circuits?
Thanks in advance.
Ivan |
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