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cvargcal
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| ADC Problem |
 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:00 pm |
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Hi, I'm trying to measure 25V.
but the measure is not good ... it has much error
for example 5V is 6.5V or 20V is 24V.
In the simulation it works fine, but not physically.
Anyone know why?
The hardware is simple:
AN0 <--------------------¬
Vcc (25V) <-----30K ----|----- 7.5K--> GND
| Code: | #include <18F26K22.h>
#Device PASS_STRINGS=IN_RAM //#ZERO_RAM
#define FASTER_BUT_MORE_ROM // Variables en memoria
//#FUSES INTRC_IO, NOWDT, BROWNOUT, PUT, NOPBADEN, NOHFOFST
#fuses HSM, NOWDT, BROWNOUT, PUT, NOPBADEN, NOHFOFST
#fuses NOPLLEN //HW PLL disabled, PLL enabled in software
#fuses MCLR //Master Clear pin enabled
#fuses PROTECT //Code protected from reads
#use delay(clock=12MHz))
int16 q;
float p;
void main(){
setup_adc(ADC_CLOCK_DIV_64 | ADC_TAD_MUL_4);
setup_adc_ports(sAN0|sAN1|sAN2, VSS_VDD);
while(TRUE){
SET_ADC_CHANNEL(0);
q= read_adc(); //
p=25.0*q/1024; //
printf("%03.3fV",p);
}
} |
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asmboy
Joined: 20 Nov 2007
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Location: albany ny
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:11 pm |
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with Vss Vdd set for A/D - what is your power supply voltage to the pic?
it matters in the "real"
is the power inlet pin decoupled with a capacitor? |
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cvargcal
Joined: 17 Feb 2015
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:17 pm |
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| asmboy wrote: | with Vss Vdd set for A/D - what is your power supply voltage to the pic?
it matters in the "real"
is the power inlet pin decoupled with a capacitor? |
The power supply is 5V, the cap is necessary, because the error is big? |
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gjs_rsdi
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
Posts: 468
Location: Bali
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:56 am |
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The capacitor is necessary on any ADC input to clear ripples
0.1uF will to the job. Also 0.1uF close as you can to the PIC VDD
Check also your 5V supply for ripples
You need also delay between:
SET_ADC_CHANNEL(0);
read_adc();
With the same microcontroller I am getting very accurate readings:
| Code: | set_adc_channel (0);
//code that takes 24us
analog0=read_adc(ADC_START_AND_READ); |
Also your resistors division will give 5V for 25V, are they accurate?
Best wishes
Joe |
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guy
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:38 am |
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The resistance you are using is too high. The maximum resistance for A/D is 10K. You can divide both resistors by 10 (3K and 750 ohm).
Adding a capacitor between the analog pin and ground will help if you must use >10K resistance and also with the ripple, but it will slow down the response to a change in the signal and during power up. |
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gjs_rsdi
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Location: Bali
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:48 am |
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I am using 39K on the up to 44 volts, 5K1 to the ground, both 1% accuracy, 0.1uF capacitor on the ADC pin and it works perfect.
And a 5.1V zener just in case
If an analog in is maximum 5V, using a serial resistor of 510 ohm and 0.1uF capacitor.
I burned a few PIC's without using the 510 ohm resistor.
James |
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guy
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:28 am |
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| gjs_rsdi take care with the Zener diode. Different manufacturers have different reverse leakage currents and with a high 39K resistance you might find yourself reading lower voltages if you change the Zener one day. |
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gjs_rsdi
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
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Location: Bali
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:49 am |
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Thanks for the advice guy 
Alway using zeners in such cases not to violate the ADC input
I am always reading the data sheet
Best wishes
James |
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temtronic
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Location: Greensville,Ontario
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:00 am |
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comment:
When selecting resistors for your voltage divider, obviously use 1% ones, but be sure to measure them. Choose the BEST ones from say a batch of 10 of each value to get the closest match possible. This way you KNOW you've got 'good numbers' coming in and NOT have to 'tweak' the code to compensate for 'some analog funny stuff'....
Jay |
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cvargcal
Joined: 17 Feb 2015
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:25 am |
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| gjs_rsdi wrote: | The capacitor is necessary on any ADC input to clear ripples
0.1uF will to the job. Also 0.1uF close as you can to the PIC VDD
Check also your 5V supply for ripples
You need also delay between:
SET_ADC_CHANNEL(0);
read_adc();
With the same microcontroller I am getting very accurate readings:
| Code: | set_adc_channel (0);
//code that takes 24us
analog0=read_adc(ADC_START_AND_READ); |
Also your resistors division will give 5V for 25V, are they accurate?
Best wishes
Joe |
Thank, why with 5V is very good. but with this not:
| Code: | q= read_adc(); //
p=25.0*q/1024; // |
well, I put this code in one task. not in "while" maybe is by this?
The divisor is very good, I check with the voltmeter and work good. |
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asmboy
Joined: 20 Nov 2007
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Location: albany ny
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:50 am |
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| Quote: | | 39K on the up to 44 volts, |
so is this 25v or 44v span or lucky 13 ??? |
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cvargcal
Joined: 17 Feb 2015
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:15 pm |
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Thank for all comment...I get the problem... the power supply was on 4.6V I had not seen... :/
now I fix to 5V with ADC 16bit and all is OK. |
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