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 Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:02 pm |
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 Anybody know if the warp 13 is no longer being supported. The newfound web site is non-existent and I am wondering if they have support for the new processors coming out.
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Jeff King
Joined: 20 Oct 2003
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Location: Hillsdale, Michigan USA
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Darren Rook
Joined: 06 Sep 2003
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Location: Milwaukee, WI
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:15 pm |
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Now, for my personal opinion (an opinion that is not affiliated with any company, etc):
Good riddance.
Newfound continued to increase prices while bugs and PC software flaws continued to mount. They showed no intention of getting into the modern PC era by replacing the serial with USB (Hans W will tell you how easy it is to replace by dropping an FTDI chip in). They would never give out their firmware .HEX files, rather keep them in some encrypted format in an attempt to lock-in users to keep purchasing more boards. Even when they did exist they did not provide support, instead they shoved off all support onto their vendors.
And as a final affront, he goes drops all support without providing source code for either the PC or the PIC. |
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Jeff King
Joined: 20 Oct 2003
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Location: Hillsdale, Michigan USA
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:43 pm |
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While I can't dispute the facts you recitate, I can say the support was good for me. When I fried my Warp13, then sent me two new PIC's for it for basically the shipping charge from Austrilia.
Bottom line, I have one, so want to be able to use it, although its value will decrease. I did get my moneys worth out of it.
Also, I just check the latest download (the one I posted), and it does have what appears to be a unencrypted hex file in it both for bluepole and the redback.
I agree, the FTDI USB chip is easy to use.
Regards,
Jeff
| Darren Rook wrote: | Now, for my personal opinion (an opinion that is not affiliated with any company, etc):
Good riddance.
Newfound continued to increase prices while bugs and PC software flaws continued to mount. They showed no intention of getting into the modern PC era by replacing the serial with USB (Hans W will tell you how easy it is to replace by dropping an FTDI chip in). They would never give out their firmware .HEX files, rather keep them in some encrypted format in an attempt to lock-in users to keep purchasing more boards. Even when they did exist they did not provide support, instead they shoved off all support onto their vendors.
And as a final affront, he goes drops all support without providing source code for either the PC or the PIC. |
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asmallri
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 1635
Location: Perth, Australia
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:44 pm |
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I experienced both sides, I had software bugs that I reported but they persisted through releases. I had a similar experience to Jeff, I had a fried processor and was sent a new one.
The last release of softare posted is not encrypted and I am using it. It is a quick and easy programmer to use. I also have an ICD-2 but find the Warp more convenient. I got good value for money out of it and I am sorry to see it disappear.
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http://www.brushelectronics.com/software
Home of Ethernet, SD card and Encrypted Serial Bootloaders for PICs!! |
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