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Christophe



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disabling enabling ADC
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 7:38 am     Reply with quote

Hi..

it is true that the PIC comsumes less power when the ADC is disabled.

By stating this:

setup_adc_ports(AN0_AN1_AN3);
setup_adc(ADC_CLOCK_INTERNAL);
set_adc_channel( 0 );

Are you enabling the ADC (and consuming more power)?
Is it better ONLY to enable the ADC pheripheral when needed and disable when you've done using it?

About output impedance:

Vbat (0 - 5V)
|
100k
|
*--------------- AN0
|
150k
|
GND

What is the output impedance? And what should the adc setup be? (time necessary for C to be loaded with voltage is important)
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:39 pm     Reply with quote

It depends upon what PIC you're using.

If you use a modern "Nanowatt" technology PIC, the A/D uses almost
nothing when it's turned on (but not converting).

Example:
The 16F88 running at 5v, uses a typical 3 nA when it's on, but not
converting. This number is from section 18.2 of the data sheet.

That's practically nothing.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:00 pm     Reply with quote

Christophe --

Your source impedance is the Thevenin equivalent resistance of the voltage divider, in this case 60k ohms. Unless you're running the part from less than 5 volts, the voltage divider isn't necessary....
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 1:13 am     Reply with quote

Well I am using PIC16LF877A @3V (Vdd)
So is that using nanowatt technology?

PIC16LF87XA � 90 � μA

How can you turn the interface on and off?

do_adc {

put_on (adc) //how?

...

put_off (adc) // how?

return (..)

}


My settings are:

setup_adc_ports(AN0_AN1_AN3);
setup_adc(ADC_CLOCK_INTERNAL);

I only use AN0 and AN1 as analog inputs; with these settings AN3 is also an analog input; and I want to use it as a digital input..


Last edited by Christophe on Wed May 18, 2005 1:39 am; edited 1 time in total
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 1:38 am     Reply with quote

Quote:
Well I am using PIC16LF877A @3V (Vdd)
So is that using nanowatt technology?

No. If it's nanowatt, it will say so on the first page of the data sheet.
Like this:
Quote:
PIC16F87/88
Data Sheet
18/20/28-Pin Enhanced Flash
Microcontrollers with
nanoWatt Technology


Quote:
How can you turn the interface on and off?

Look in the CCS manual. The section on the setup_adc() function
says this:
Quote:
Some typical options include:
� ADC_OFF
� ADC_CLOCK_INTERNAL
� ADC_CLOCK_DIV_32


So, to turn it on, you do this:
Code:
setup_adc(ADC_CLOCK_DIV_32);

To turn it off you do this:
Code:
setup_adc(ADC_OFF);
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 1:40 am     Reply with quote

Thank you very much,

so when it's off, I can use the pins again as digital i/o ?

edit:

by stating this:

setup_adc_ports(AN0_AN1_AN3);

and the ADC is off, can I use A0 A1 and A3 as digital i/o ?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 2:04 am     Reply with quote

Quote:

so when it's off, I can use the pins again as digital i/o ?
setup_adc_ports(AN0_AN1_AN3);

No. That statement configures AN0, 1, and 3 as analog.

You have to configure them as digital with this statement:
setup_adc_ports(NO_ANALOGS);
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 2:36 am     Reply with quote

PCM,

can you confirm the following code:

Code:


//****************************************************************************//
//Meten Adapterspanning
//Vadap = (82+150)/150*waarde*3/255
int8 meet_Vadap()
{
   int8 waarde = 0;
   if (!input(POWER_GOOD))
   {
      setup_adc_ports(AN0_AN1_AN3);
      setup_adc(ADC_CLOCK_DIV_32);
      set_adc_channel( 1 );
      delay_us(5);
      waarde = read_adc();
      setup_adc(ADC_OFF);
      setup_adc_ports(NO_ANALOGS);
      return waarde;
   }

   else
      {
      waarde = 0;
      return waarde;
      }
}



thank you

edit: seems to be not working;
after setup_adc_ports(NO_ANALOGS);
How is the A-port set up? (by means the power-good pin)

edit: I solved the problem; after setup_adc_ports(NO_ANALOGS); you HAVE to reset your pins as inputs..
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